Some Students, Parents Defend New Trier Hacker

Teens get away with too much , it is nice to see them punished in a way that might make them think before acting.

he is a kid, let the dean handle this, NOT the police!

He's not a kid. He's an 18 year old man. Good for the school!

You can find your class rank on your report card, or by asking your advisor. I think he was looking for something else and isn't coming clean about it.

Give me a break!. He broke the law. And of course he is a GOOD Boy! Lock him and his parents up. Ever here of CONSEQUENCES.

What he did was very, very wrong, and should be punished. The punishmnt should also set a stern example for anyone who might consider attempting this in the future. Maybe someone should tamper with his grades and adjust them so that he is a semester short of graduation......

It is sad that a child will go to the lengths of breaking the law as a result of the competitive nature of the northshore. He should be punished for breaking the law. too often wealthy kids get a slap on the wrist because "they did not mean any harm."Computer hacking is serious. He did not take any confidential info in this case, but her certainly has the ability to do so in the future.

If your man enough to do the crime then don't complain about doing the time.

Question: If another 18 year-old who wasn't a student but an employee at the school did the same thing, do you think the parents and students would just let the dean handle it, not the police?Just because you know and like someone who has done somethingwrong does not mean they shoud get off easy. Take responsibility for your own actions!

He broke the law. What is to keep him from doing the same going forward. I am tired of people hacking and stealing private information.

Throw the "book" at him!

I'm a teacher. Last week a 5th grader in my class threatened to bring a gun to school. This week a 1st grader put his hands up a girls shorts (against her will). Schools and the police need to discipline when parents excuse behaviors like these.

That is a serious security breach. I think it is a legitimate criminal matter.

If these parents stopped coddling their kids, they might learn something about real life. Do our laws not apply to the wealthy and privledged, too? Just like those parents who thought that providing a keg for their kid's party was harmless.

If this kid wanted to find out his class rank, why didn't he ask his family lawyer to try to get it for him? Instead, he violated a security breach. He approached this the wrong way. Another indication that he probably doesn't talk with his parents much and spends too much time on the internet.

This is not some school prank. This is illegal. He would have to be a moron not to know it was illegal. He made the choice to do it knowing if he got caught, there would be problems. Well, he got caught.

In response to Give me a Break. This is not a school rule he violated. He violated a law. Let the justice system handle it.

What he did is a crime. This young MAN is not above the law. Today's students know that hacking is a crime. Parents - teach your children to understand that purposeful actions also come with consequences. If you are MAN enough to do the crime, be MAN enough to do the time.

The kid needs to deal with the punishment. When your in school you can be punished by the school and by the justice system. Everyone knows that and every kid knows that. If kids fight in school they get suspended and they get arrested. Similarly, theschool should punish him and he should have to deal with the legal ramifications of his actions.

That some New Trier parents and students -- as Regine reports -- would question due process of law in such a matter is deeply disappointing. It is admitted that he intended to break into something to which he had no right whatsoever, he worked at doing so and he succeeded. He violated not only the laws applying to those records, but the privacy of every classmate to whose privileged information he had illicit access. I have no idea if this person has a record or not, and i make no suggestion of what specifically he should be charged with, but it appears on the publicly avaoilable information that he faces criminal and civil liability. The New Trier I attended -- and the community that supported it -- knew clearly the difference between prank, indiscretion, judgment error, tort and crime. My hope here is thet Regine encountered a microscopic minority. Finally, the families are a first line. The school is the second line. But when the school uncovers an illegal act, it must report same to local law enforcement. criticism on that basis shows fundamental misunderstanding of the legal obligations of the the school's officials.

Aren't we all tired of hackers? Let the police hanldle it. Maybe it is the only way this "man" will learn.

They should make an example out of him. Whether he did harm or not, what he did was a CRIME, and crimes should be punished. We are getting WAY too lax in this society on disciplining the youth, and that leads to rampant immorality all over the country. Ithink that he should be punished. We can not let it slide just because he didn't hurt anyone. Crime is crime, and should be punished as such.

Assuming no records were changed, and that a student should be able to find his class rank, what was the harm? The suspension alone should conpensate for the nuisanse of his "crime". He should also get extra credit for his computer skills. The fact that he could have but did not do anything bad to the records shows that he is ethical.

I believe this student should be charged criminally, as well as punished by the school. Does he or his parents think he or they are above the law? He took information that did not belong to him, that seems to be the norm in todays society, people take what doesn't belong to them way too many times and do not get punished!! Kudos to the school and the police for the pressing charges.

He used the laptop at school which says he wanted to get caught! Maybe the next person will go off site to do their dirt. Being pushed to succeed is not an excuse to do criminal activities. Just take the punishment and move on. No one would be laughing, including his classmates, if he'd decide to move around some grades or rankings unfavorably or done worse. If this is the Harvard of high schools get some ethics and create a student/peer board to setup appropriate punishments.

I just read another article that is much more informative and found out he downloaded information about other students as well. I still think so long as he didn't tamper with anyone's information, jail time is a Draconian punishment. But this is actually a violation of privacy, which is something I care about. But I think the suspension combined with all of the attention he must be receiving is more than enough punishment. Then again, I guess I'll wait until the court date to see if there's anything else I don't know about.

American Citizenship includes an obligation to fall the Rule of Law. If you're unclear on this point, you ought to sue whomever was responsible for your Civics class. If you either failed to pay attention, or have yet to take it (which may indeed be the case), do take the time to wrap yourself up in the material. We are not Anarchists - We live in a Democratic Republic. Get used to it. As to the payment for the crime, it's within the hands of the Courts to suss that one out. It's a good thing he is in America, at least he'll be considered Innocent until proven Guilty, unlike other countries. Don't like the Country you're in? There are plenty others to chose from OR become part of the solution, not an arm-chair complainer.

I never said it was legal. I said it would be an atrocity if he's convicted for a year of jail for something that didn't harm anyone. And I am trying to be part of the solution by voicing my opinion. And the entire foundation of this country was based on acting on your beliefs AGAINST the government. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin. People nowadays are so obsessed with safety it's nothing short of appalling. And he didn't even do anything that wasn't safe. He harmed no one and yet his life may be ruined. Just because I hate the culture of this country doesn't mean I should get out. It seems to me I'm doing more than other people by stating an unpopular opinion.

I haven't taken a civics class. I think that might be the problem. I don't let other people dictate for me what is right and wrong.

At new trier you can't see your class rank. I think that most of you don't know what happened, or didn't bother to read the article. He shouldn't have been arrested for a crime that many are ignorant of.

Ha ha, for whatever reason I mistook 'civics' for 'ethics' in my mind. I think I'm getting even more worked up over this than I realize. Either way, it was still a belligerent comment. Nonetheless, I think him getting arrested over this is ludicrous. I also agree with what 'Listen' said, which is why I'm going to hold out on final judgement until after the court hearing. Maybe there are more facts still I don't know about? After all, any article but this one states that he downloaded other students' personal information - which is certainly something I don't condone. But like I said before, if he didn't tamper with anything I think the media attention and suspension are more than enough punishment.

Just don't get caught.

I just realized how everyone wants to punish this boy for taking information that belongs to him, yet very few people question the US government's role in violating our Constitutional right to privacy. So I guess what I felt was right - people are inconsistent morons.

*taking information that DOES NOT BELONG to him

From Ken Thompson's classic speech on trust & computing: "I have watched kids testifying before Congress. It is clear that they are completely unaware of the seriousness of their acts. There is obviously a cultural gap. The act of breaking into a computer system has to have the same social stigma as breaking into a neighbor's house. It should not matter that the neighbor's door is unlocked. The press must learn that misguided use of a computer is no more amazing than drunk driving of an automobile. "

Despite his harmless persona, he's a criminal. Hitting him with hard consequences now will do one of two things; he will either realize the error of his ways or find ways to make fewer or no errors...

burn in h3ll

He is a creative, bright and inquisitive youth.No real harm was done. He has suffered greatly already. Allow him to fufill his destiny in computers. He may just prove to be a great American if you give him a chance. The constituition says " cruel and unusual punishment" to imprison a gentle youth with hardcore criminals would be excessivly cruel. He could end up dead or with aids.Show him mercy!

To those who said he committed a serious crime, don't make allegations if you don't know the facts. As a friend and tech savvy individual I know that his actions were not serious. Greenthal was not some "rich kid" as others allege. Had he been aKenilworth or Winnetka rich kid, New Trier would have let him off the hook. I know because I went to that school and saw it happen. Oh, and fyi, he was only looking for his class rank. New Trier does not release class ranks.

R9xGjY utkzgnrajrjt, [url=http://emkylyuhunla.com/]emkylyuhunla[/url], [link=http://idomxrmydduw.com/]idomxrmydduw[/link], http://rscxdojenpyn.com/

What do you think?